• I agree. Honestly all melodramatic language like "DESTROY" does is make me not take the post or the op seriously at all. Sorry dude. Maybe it's tone policing but honestly if you think people posting little moving pictures is going to ruin the site, it just means I can't take you seriously. Of course stuff like saying "this makes me furious" is different, but like... THIS IS GOING TO RUIN EVERYTHING- whether it's gifs or hearts or whatever, makes me roll my eyes and snicker.

    Also honestly, I'm not a big gif person but, it wouldn't surprise me if lots of people were discouraged enough if gifs were disabled all together to leave SO, that might not be good for the site either. Sorry dude, you don't get to define what we all want. Doesn't work that way.

  • Yep, and there's a definitely difference between people giving a pet up because they know/feel they're not able to provide the care they deserve and want the best for them and people just finding excuses to replace them.

  • Yeah, people are so unkind to each other. I admit last year I had to beg the internet for help because my cat needed dental work, he had to have teeth removed because they were being reabsorbed. It was humiliating and embarrassing and I got hate for it. But some people were kind and he wasn't in pain anymore and that's what matters.

    I guess the "loaded" comment was because I was nervous about answering it. I can tell you're angry and I didn't want to have that anger aimed at me, mostly because I'm non confrontational, but as a poor person who knows other poor people and who has pets I refuse to give up, I had to put in my two cents. But yeah, what it comes down to is that no matter what choice you make, people will find a reason to make it a bad reflection on your character if you're poor, because they want to blame your poverty on your bad character. That's why dogs are great, they don't judge.

  • And I think honestly this conversation is a good example of how poor people can't win in our society's eyes. If they keep their pets, they are selfish and abusing them. If they surrender their pet to a shelter or attempt to rehome them, they're abandoning them and obviously don't love them in the first place.

    This isn't aimed at OP, but just an observation I've made. I would never ever let my pets go, but I know people who have because frankly it was that or the animal going hungry and cold. Their logic was that they'd be safe and warm in a shelter.

    Which is the right choice? Which is the choice that won't get them judged? Or does society just find any reason it can do condemn poor people and their choices?

  • This is a loaded question omg. What I will say as a poor person with multiple pets-- I wasn't in the same financial circumstance when I adopted my pets, and I don't know how much people who judge poor people for having to ask for help for their pets consider that. Jobs are lost, times become hard, no one can tell the future.

    My dog is a 7 year old mutt and my cat is 5, black, and missing an eye. Even if I were to do the "unselfish" thing and give them up, their chances of finding a loving home with people who have plenty of money are almost zero. I do my best to do right by them. They eat twice a day, my cat has clean litter, I save for yearly vet visits. They are happy and healthy even if i can't afford to have them on a raw diet or something.

    With so many animals being in shelters, I honestly can't begrudge any poor person wanting to give one a good home and wanting the company. Not to mention how utterly disheartening poverty IS-- poor people deserve things that bring them happiness and comfort.

  • Oh yeah, I can definitely see how one control style would work better for some mechanics than others. It's been a long time since I played Mortal Kombat or Street Fighter or something but I can't even imagine trying to do it with a keyboard and mouse.

  • Yeah, and looking back it for all my wordiness I wasn't clear as to what I meant, because ultimately I feel like in some ways the developer having to cater to the console's specs favors the consumer more than the consumer's pc having to cater to the game's specs, mostly economically.

    But you are right that consoles are pretty obsolete in comparison to pcs in terms of the actual hardware.

  • Ahhh, the specs. And this is where I personally feel console has a little bit of an advantage, tbh. PC stuff gets obsolete pretty quickly, where once you buy a console that's it (until a newer better version comes out, or it breaks, but I feel like that happens at about the same rate as pc parts go obsolete or break SO) . It's kind of what I love about pcs and yet what I hate, because it means that I DON'T have to worry about buying a new console-- but really, replacing a video card can be just as pricey if you want to get really good stuff.

    PCs are expensive. Yeah, a PS4 is about $300, but a good decent gaming pc can cost around $600 IF you are up to buying all the pieces individually and building it yourself. I have an Alienware (unfortunately, my last computer died very suddenly and I had to get what I could get with the credit I had-- a credit line with Dell) that cost me about $1000, but with Alienware you're mostly paying for the little Alien logo. It's not even really upgradeable or moddable, so it's not even Alienware's "top of the line" really, it's a "mini" pc.

    Honestly I only started with PC because my friends got me hooked on World of Warcraft and I eventually had to get something that could run it well enough that I could raid with friends and not hold them back, but then since I had it, I ended up just switching over to PC games and haven't gone back, mostly because of practicality, but in a lot of ways console IS better.

    I've also gotten to the point where console controls make me nervous, lmao so reading people saying that pc controls are extreme is funny to me. (Mostly it's a coordination thing, but it may be in my head because it's been so long since i played console)

  • Definitely have to second the rec for TSW. It's not perfect but it's very complex and I personally really enjoy it, though wow gets most of my gaming attention.

    The community is actually pretty great too!

  • Dragon Age Inquisition-- I know people LOVED this game but I couldn't finish it. They gave us the option to play multiple species, but at the end of the day being anything other than an elf or a human meant nothing. The plot was bland, the horses were bland, they didn't give me a cute dog, and the hinterlands were a form of torture. The options for the Inquisitor's choices were six different versions of clueless and bland (my inquisitor can't even get the concept of raising morale and humanizing themselves for their troops??? Wtf)

    Over all I can't think of any redeeming features for DAI but I AM aware I'm in the minority. It sealed the deal of my complete breakup with Bioware games tbh.

  • To be fair, a new Red Dead Game was announced and ME3 disappointed a lot of people. :P

  • Professions are already my least favorite part of the game but Nomi takes it to another level.

  • Ahhh I'm glad!

  • Yeah, I think it's Christmas, plus my big fandom is FO and the last game came out over a year ago now, so of course things are going to die down.

    <3 Thank you though. I may babble at you at some point if I can get ideas. It just feels like everyone else hates all the things I'm really invested in.

  • I wish I could vote for more than one. I struggle with feet too, but hands are just a bit harder

  • We may not have gotten big (idk) and idk that we ever will but if we do its a good precaution.

    If you go to my profile you can see the comments Ive made in all the different communities i participate in. If someone makes someone else mad for whatever silly reason, they could go look at someone's profile, see that they made a comment about something sensitive, and use it for bullying or abuse fodder-- of course ideally the bully would get banned but the ability to talk about personal issues under a different name from fan issues or something allows people to avoid the unpleasantness in the first place.

    Also not everyone needs to know every aspect of my interests and my life.

    You may not be that malicious, honestly i dont think most people are, but that doesn't mean no one is, and honestly I like to give the benefit of the doubt but also protect myself.

  • So if say, you don't want people you interact with in the fandom community to know you're also part of the mental illness/trans/lgbt+ /feminism community, you have that privacy.

    Ideally it wouldn't be an issue, but people can be cruel for weird reasons. I personally like it, though I use the same profile for MOST things.

    ETA: Not that that's the ONLY reason, but the option for different profiles for different communities does work well for that purpose.

  • While I agree that the post is Bad, I don't know that I like the idea of taking down a post when it's not technically breaking any rules just because it's unpopular with the majority of the group.

    If anything, what I'm seeing is that this dude keeps on trying to get people to agree with him and to drum up support but he keeps getting shut down. I can see that actually being more discouraging than just taking the posts down, which is just going to make them scream about "censorship" and go on one of their ridiculous crusades, which would just entail a bunch of them joining up, posting outright offensive content, and making things more annoying for everyone.

    They can post their crappy posts, but they don't have the audience they want. I have never seen someone shut down so fast and so well.

  • Tbh giving your article a title that begins with "The Whine About" isn't going to help anyone be more open to your article. If you want actual open and serious discussion about this stuff, it's probably a good idea to drop a lot of the language that's bound to set people's teeth on edge before they even get to the actual article.

    As it is the title alone tells me where your bias lies, and I have no interest in reading a post where you basically dismiss criticism of a character design as whining.

    I love Final Fantasy, have since I was a teen, and I still fully intend to play FFXV. And yes I realize the FF devs have a tendency to skimp the dudes up as well, which I appreciate. That said, there's a much bigger trend of sexualizing women, which does make Cindy's design unfortunate, particularly because she's one of a few female characters. (Which is also disappointing from an FF game)

  • except that your whole point about wanting to get rid of hearts is because you think it encourages people not to bother respond to you and you think if you get rid of them it'll make people reply to your posts. Like, that's the whole point of this entire post of yours.

    Which does tell me you DO want to control the way people interact with others on the website and you want it done on your terms, which again, suggests you feel there's a certain way people SHOULD engage the website.

    Which is why a lot of people actually think people are going to interact LESS. You're wanting to limit the way they engage because it's not acceptable to you, it's not good enough for you.

    Look, people who want to reply to you will reply to you whether there's a heart or not. People who would just hit the heart wouldn't reply to you even if it wasn't there. But you seem to think they will, which is why you want to have the option to remove them-- again to control the way people interact and respond.

    And every time I've seen the "lazy" argument I've pointed out that it's crummy, so you're not alone, don't feel bad. :D

    (ETA: Also I would hardly call "Hey this trend of inferring users are lazy for not engaging in the way you think they should is crappy" putting you under fire but OKAY)

  • Okay, I'm going quote what ruffled my feathers:

    "People will like a comment without providing any kind of feedback and I don't think it's because they don't have an opinion, it's because the option allows them to be lazy about their input."

    You're not the first person to refer to people's behavior in communities as "lazy". I've seen people claim disliking arguments is lazy. I've seen people claim blocking people is lazy. There's this sense that participating in these communities should be some kind of work, when no, if we don't want it to be, it shouldn't. We're not getting paid for this, we're doing it for ourselves, and we owe others respect sure, but that's in the sense of not trolling and treating people like human beings, not having to interact with a comment or post beyond hitting a little heart if we don't have it in us to for ANY reason. That comment about "constantly" was not aimed specifically at you but at an attitude I've seen in discussions about the community a lot.

    Furthermore calling a behavior "lazy" usually implies some kind of judgement on someone's part, which is bound to make people defensive.

    Someone saying "I agree with this comment" and your replying with a question does feel pretty interrogative, and I explained why. Some people aren't good with words, or at explaining feelings or thoughts, or just don't want to. Again, just not feeling like it as a perfectly good reason not do something in this community (as long as it's not "I don't feel like respecting your boundaries" or something like that.)

    But people who struggle with phrasing things may not necessarily be eager to be asked to explain themselves further, because sometimes they just can't, and whoever else you're agreeing with said everything you're thinking already, but better.

  • I don't know, I feel like no one has an obligation to be really verbose in a conversation, or give anyone a three page thesis as to why they feel the way they do about something. Not everyone can really phrase things well, and sometimes everything that that person is thinking has been said. Me just repeating everything the commenter above me said is just going to be redundant and waste everyone's time, and I'm sorry, I'm not going to do it. If someone already expressed everything I want to say, I'm not going to just repeat it, particularly if they manage to do it in a much more clear and concise way that I could.

    A heart is a good way to express "I agree with this" or "Me too" without having to repeat what someone else said, potentially coming across as copying too, depending on the community and its context.

    You mentioned responding to "I agree" or "me too" with a question-- but what if they answer is simply "what they said/you said it better/I have nothing to add to this current conversation but I find it interesting because I'm learning/figuring things out/seeing my thoughts phrased in a way that'll make them easier to explain in later conversations".

    No one needs to be interrogated, no one appreciates being interrogated, and tbh this is a site where most of us hang out for fun, I don't understand the constant need to call certain things "Lazy" as if this is some kind of obligation or job anyone in the community has.

  • Thankfully I get paid on the 30th again so I'll be able to squeeze in. Depending on paycheck may get the pet and plush or just the pet.

  • <3 you bugsie. The nice thing about Imzy is that you have a lot more control of the content you see without having to resort to blacklist or savior or feeling like you're cutting out people you otherwise like :)

  • Ahhh I LOVE Arthas so much. The only reason I didn't name a pet after him is because it'd be awkward to explain to non warcraft people.

    Wrath was just so good lore/story wise, it's my favorite by far in that sense. :) It's very emotional. Freaking Wrathgate omg. Also DK main high five! And I haven't listed my own order: Wrath, Legion, BC, Cata, Warlords, Mists