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What the hell, The Magicians.
I had thought the show was doing quite well with sexuality and women's issues. I mean, a main character was actually going to get an abortion because it was her choice and she wanted to and all of her friends supported her decision and did everything they could to help her out.
I don't know if I've ever seen that on TV.
And then this?
Abortion == lost her soul???
Are you serious?
Now Julia's going to go around being an evil, self-centered bitch out to kill a god. Maybe not the God, but a god.
She's like a checklist of Things Patriarchy Is Afraid Of And Must Demonize.
- witch
- powerful
- self-taught
- makes her own decisions about her body
- single
- childless
- vengeful
Now all wrapped up in a nice little Has No Soul bow.
Ugh.




Yikes! I haven't seen the show and I don't know if I will now.
The Fosters recently had a character (a sixteen year old) have an abortion and it was done very well. It was made clear that it was her choice and there has been no negative repercussions.
It's actually had two. The first was a late term abortion to save the mother's life, also very well done.
You don't miss it. Nuns told me when I was 10 that, as a bastard, I had no soul. It troubled me for a couple decades, but I ultimately got treated for bipolar and now I don't believe in god, so it is all good.
It's been a long time since I read the books, and they weren't my favourites, but if I recall right, in the second book, when Reynard rapes Julia and kills her friends she chooses to sacrifice her humanity to save the last friend Asmodeous. I'd liked the way the tv series was handling the assault, but not this developement, we're a couple of episodes behind here, but not looking forward to this.
Was Asmodeous even in the show? That name doesn't sound familiar.
Don't think she's in the show, she's the youngest of the group Julia goes off to learn with in the book, 16/17 maybe, and she ends up killing Reynard.
They've definitely gone their own way with the tv series on a lot of things, and most have been an improvement over the books, which I remember as getting increasingly WTF.
The first book was Quentin's thread and the second had dual storylines, covering what Julia did during book one, and what happened next with all of them.
The tv series has definitely tightened up the plot, which was all over the place, but now I wonder where it's heading.
y i k e s, canon writers.
I have no idea what the canon actually is. Is this what happened in the books?
That sounds really terrible!
A lot of people were super upset when her storyline went to "got raped by a trickster god." I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt, like maybe this would ultimately go somewhere interesting enough that I could forgive them for such a cliche.
Oh, for f**ck's sake.
I am now super skeptical that this storyline can end up as anything other than offensive, when finally played out