Ah, I see. Sorry to misunderstand. I meant more that a deity could be both kind at one moment, but vengeful at another. I don't believe the Pagan Gods to be absolute and static beings that have only one side to them.
Why don't you punch the rapists who decided to be rapists? Or, if you believe in a god that punishes, he/she will punish the person who decided to commit the crime, like burning them in hell for eternity.
We can't have free will to choose to be a rapist if god has a plan for everyone so punch god in the face seems the appropriate response - and if he's so all powerful he probably won't notice some tiny human punch anyway.
Well, that would only be the view of a person who doesn't believe in free will, but some religions believe every person has a choice of what to do in life and will be rewarded/punished accordingly.
And those religions, in my opinion, are evil/wrong, and their God is evil/wrong.
I'm sorry. I try to respect all religions, but I just can't respect the belief in a God that is supposedly benevolent and all-powerful, yet still allows things like that to happen.
If God is all-powerful and does not stop evil from happening, then he is evil. He is actively creating evil, on purpose.
I don't care if he DID setup the universe in such a way that would allow those things to happen "to teach us a lesson" etc.
If he allows them to happen, and he has the power to stop them, then he is evil.
However, if he is not evil, and these things still happen, then he's not all-powerful. Because if he is not evil, and if he could, he would prevent them from happening. He would prevent the merest idea of them from ever developing in a person's mind.
Benevolence and omnipotence are not compatible, in reality.
(And no, I didn't get this revelation from Lex Luthor's speech at the top of the building in Batman v. Superman.)
"Some are vengeful and some are loving and kind"
... and some can be both at the same time.
I don't believe that to be true.
Yup! That's the awesome and fun thing about being Neo-Pagan, almost everyone thinks your belief are wrong :D
No, I mean logically true. Vengeance isn't kind.
Ah, I see. Sorry to misunderstand. I meant more that a deity could be both kind at one moment, but vengeful at another. I don't believe the Pagan Gods to be absolute and static beings that have only one side to them.
Ahh, that makes sense.
Voted No, but tbh I'm kinda disappointed by the lack of support for a vengeful god.
Calvinism isn't as popular as it once was, it seems.
I don't believe God exists, but I want him to be.
So you can punch him in the face for allowing child rapists to rape children?
That escalated quickly...
Why don't you punch the rapists who decided to be rapists? Or, if you believe in a god that punishes, he/she will punish the person who decided to commit the crime, like burning them in hell for eternity.
We can't have free will to choose to be a rapist if god has a plan for everyone so punch god in the face seems the appropriate response - and if he's so all powerful he probably won't notice some tiny human punch anyway.
Well, that would only be the view of a person who doesn't believe in free will, but some religions believe every person has a choice of what to do in life and will be rewarded/punished accordingly.
And those religions, in my opinion, are evil/wrong, and their God is evil/wrong.
I'm sorry. I try to respect all religions, but I just can't respect the belief in a God that is supposedly benevolent and all-powerful, yet still allows things like that to happen.
If God is all-powerful and does not stop evil from happening, then he is evil. He is actively creating evil, on purpose.
I don't care if he DID setup the universe in such a way that would allow those things to happen "to teach us a lesson" etc.
If he allows them to happen, and he has the power to stop them, then he is evil.
However, if he is not evil, and these things still happen, then he's not all-powerful. Because if he is not evil, and if he could, he would prevent them from happening. He would prevent the merest idea of them from ever developing in a person's mind.
Benevolence and omnipotence are not compatible, in reality.
(And no, I didn't get this revelation from Lex Luthor's speech at the top of the building in Batman v. Superman.)